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 Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2009 14:30 Post subject: Been out the game for a while. |
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I havent played Pc games for a good 1.5 years now. I only recently got back into them, and want to build a new rig.
What can £400 get you these days? (tower only)
Ive got monitor and stuffs. Just need a tower with mobo/ram/gfx/hd etc
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2009 14:48 Post subject: |
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I'll leave the motherboards to more up to date guys. But about else:
Intel C2D E8500 (overclockable like hell) - Amazon
4-6 GB of DDR2 (whatever brand, 800-1066 MHz)
Ati Radeon 4850 (great cards) - Amazon
some 320-500 GB HDD
Don't waste too much on the motherboard, it's really not that worth it. 
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Cohen
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2009 17:29 Post subject: |
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Why isn't anyone mentioning the i7 ? Do they suck ?
Because I'm thinking of buying a low-price PC and I want to jump on Intel's latest socket technology, so that I can upgrade in a year or so. And the low-end i7 was kinda cheap I think.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2009 17:31 Post subject: |
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Well, sort a
Intel Core i7 920 4x2.67GHz BOX 282,17 €
I guess you could get down the price to 250€ or so, but thats not to cheap if you also include a new X58 Mobo + at least 2 GB of DDR3 ram...
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2009 18:13 Post subject: |
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i7 are not cheap at all, especially when considering the cost of i7 (whatever socket that is) motherboards and DDR3 RAM. Also take into consideration that no game, no not even Crysis, uses all of i7's power, so you could just slide with a C2D for now, especially with the cheaper motherboards and RAM. For a budget machines, C2Ds are great.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2009 12:43 Post subject: |
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so.. In theory... I can build a crysis worthy rig for less than £350 now? right?
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2009 13:36 Post subject: |
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Top of the line C2D is
Intel Core2 Duo E8600 2x3.33GHz BOX 6MB 261,80 € (price may of course vary)
I guess we are talking dual cores here and not quads right? 
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Cohen
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2009 14:47 Post subject: |
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Dude, Amazon has 4850s for £136, and that card is clearly much better than a 8800.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2009 14:49 Post subject: |
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4850 is a generation newer than the 8800 cards as well.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2009 14:51 Post subject: |
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Go for the E8400 best value/money
| Quote: | Product Description Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 / 3 GHz processor
Product Type Processor
Processor Type Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
Multi-Core Technology Dual-Core
64-bit Computing Yes
Compatible Processor Socket LGA775 Socket
Processor Qty 1
Clock Speed 3 GHz
Bus Speed 1333 MHz
Manufacturing Process 45 nm
Cache Memory L2 6 MB
Features Enhanced SpeedStep technology, Execute Disable Bit capability, Intel Virtualization Technology, Intel 64 Technology, Intel Trusted Execution Technology, Enhanced Halt State (C1E), Intel Thermal Monitor 2
Compatible Slots 1 x processor - LGA775 Socket
Manufacturer Warranty 3 years warranty |
£129.45
+1@ 4850
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2009 15:00 Post subject: |
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Well any C2D is really good enough to overclock really well. Just make sure to get a good fan.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2009 15:13 Post subject: |
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Sure, that will do as well. Man, 4850 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8800, especially an old GTS.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2009 15:20 Post subject: |
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For Crysis you really need more than 2GB.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2009 15:24 Post subject: |
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4GB DDR2 Kits are currently the sweet spot in price/size-ratio.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2009 16:12 Post subject: |
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hmm. Ok then. I will take a gandalf.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2009 16:45 Post subject: |
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why not sauron? or saruman? i hear they are better.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2009 16:46 Post subject: |
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go with the Phenom II 720 black edition tripple core, its the same as the 940 besides having one core less, which means you can OC it from 2.8ghz to 3.4ghz by just switching the multiplier ( no need to change Vcore, no need for expensive mobo or ram or have OC experience ) . Its also 10 bucks cheaper than the 8400
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2009 17:00 Post subject: |
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As for the HD go for a Western Digital Black 640GB 32mb cache
Read speed is about 101mb/s
To give you an idea i got the following drives also that i compared
WD 640GB 16mb cache blue : 93mb/s
WD raptor 74gb : 73mb/s
WD 500gb 16mb cache : 63mb/s
Those drives with 320gb platters blow away everything else there is in the consumer market, and they arent very expensive either going for under 70 euros.
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2009 17:55 Post subject: |
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What do you mean with 320gb platters? in size or something else. There is also a difference in speed if the size is different right? Lets say 500gb WD black vs 640GB WD black And it seems 640 is the best bang for the buck or what
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2009 08:05 Post subject: |
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| Kitarist wrote: | What do you mean with 320gb platters? in size or something else. There is also a difference in speed if the size is different right? Lets say 500gb WD black vs 640GB WD black And it seems 640 is the best bang for the buck or what
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Platters = each individual cylindrical disk in a harddrive. If a drive use 320GB platters and have a capacity of 640GB it has two of those 320GB-platters. Higher density platters (the more capacity a platter has) usually means they're faster to read/write on and seek times are lower (distances between sectors are smaller which means less area for the heads to scan to reach the right position).
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Thanks for those info's leo 
