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vurt




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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Dec 2025 16:54    Post subject:
It's the worst windows for sure. It's like they thought "how can we possible make this paricular thing worse? Let's restrict it with X, let ut make the user do BOTH x AND y when he before just could do Z).

The fucking "let me google if for you" garbage they have instead of just taking you to where you want to go? Who the hell builds an OS like that unless you do it for shits and giggles. Some real IQ 80'ish people behind this + people not really using the OS for anything other than maybe opening Edge to surf the web.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Dec 2025 20:41    Post subject:
it's not an OS anymore it's far more of a very aggressive data mining and advertising platform that's why the user gets the shittiest end of the stick.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Dec 2025 21:08    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
For anyone not familiar, make sure to install Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC instead of any of the consumer versions. This one has all the secure boot nonsense disabled, much of the shit that you normally "debloat" is not even installed, and other stuff is much easier to handle. You can activate using the normal methods.


Available here:

https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links

Make sure to download the link that points to Microsoft's domains (e.g. https://oemsoc.download.prss.microsoft.com/...). You can then activate as usual.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Dec 2025 22:53    Post subject:
Well, it's one of those "I read it on the internet", but I read in some forum (can't remember which) one guy recommending again the latest LTSC and advising to go at least one LTSC release back. Guy was claiming that the last one already had some of the rot baked in Laughing


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Dec 2025 23:52    Post subject:
There is no previous LTSC for Windows 11 as far as I know. The previous is Windows 10 IoT Enterprise 22H2, which is still getting updates as an LTSC, but for gaming, not optimal.

I am running 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC on the main machine now and a laptop and it comes really barebones. But you can install the store back, game bar, etc. Just doesn't come preloaded.

Important, there are several LTSC variants, but I am strictly speaking about IoT Enterprise, not the others.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2025 15:59    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
there are several LTSC variants.


Which one would be good for a workstation? Meaning only audio, design and video apps.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2025 16:03    Post subject:
Always the IoT Enterprise LTSC, be it Windows 10 or 11, since it removes everything from Windows that shouldn't be in Windows. I mean, in 11 the terrible design is still there, that ship has sailed, but at least it's just that.

If you don't want, you can never update it for 10 years and it will get security fixes. Or you can install the future LTSC on top and get 10 further years. For example, the last Windows 10 LTSC is still receiving security updates despite Windows 10 being declared "done" by Microsoft.

You can restore everything missing later, if you want it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2025 16:26    Post subject:
Normal Windows 10 also still gets updates, I recall? EU law or something.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2025 16:34    Post subject:
I'm not familiar with EU specific policies. MS designated Windows 10 EOL.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2025 19:25    Post subject:
Photish wrote:
Normal Windows 10 also still gets updates, I recall? EU law or something.


Windows 10 receives updates up to 3 years more with ESU program. You can pay 30 bucks for the first year and more for each year after that
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or use massgrave and activate TSForge ESU
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LeoNatan wrote:
Always the IoT Enterprise LTSC, be it Windows 10 or 11, since it removes everything from Windows that shouldn't be in Windows.

Thanks. So this means all the relevant libraries (.net vb+ etcetera) will be included but the slopware is out of the equation? Will it be perfectly functional for non-gaming use?


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2025 20:25    Post subject:
Yes, perfect. And everything missing can be installed from Windows Components in settings or via web store (can install store stuff from Edge, without even installing the store app).
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2025 21:03    Post subject:
Neato.


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